Charli XCX and Gordon Ramsay shared a cheeky moment on The Graham Norton Show, with the pop star quickly shutting down the celebrity chef when the conversation turned to her Brat era.
The 59-year-old restaurateur, who holds eight Michelin stars and oversees around 90 restaurants worldwide, appeared on Norton’s BBC chat show to talk about his latest project: Netflix’s new documentary Being Gordon Ramsay.
Sitting alongside him was Charli XCX, 33, whose bold 2024 album Brat became a major cultural talking point, even seeping into politics after she declared that ‘Kamala IS brat’.
With both guests on the sofa, Norton couldn’t resist asking whether Ramsay’s daughters — Megan, 27, Holly, 26, and Tilly, 24 — had embraced any of that trademark Brat attitude since the album took off. Ramsay’s answer set Charli up for a quick comeback.
Explaining what he’d noticed at home, Ramsay said: “It’s just attitude. In abundance. Loud volume. I think the older you get, the lower you want the volume.”
The comment raised eyebrows, given Ramsay’s long-standing reputation for bringing plenty of volume himself — particularly in the early years of his TV stardom on shows like Hells Kitchen and Kitchen Nightmares.
That intense side of Ramsay was also on full display in the 1999 documentary Boiling Point, where he’s shown routinely erupting in the kitchen when standards aren’t met and applying relentless pressure to anyone in his orbit.
Charli — born Charlotte Aitchison — wasn’t having the implication that the “attitude” came solely from her album, and she fired back: “I mean, I feel like they could have got that from you though.”
Ramsay, who many viewers feel has mellowed compared with the period when he was chasing his first three Michelin stars, took the jab in good spirits. He laughed with the crowd and the other guests before agreeing, “You’re right.”
Norton piled on with a punchline of his own, quipping: “It’s been Brat kitchen, for some time.”
The exchange came as Charli promoted her new mockumentary The Moment, which tracks her as she tries to stay grounded while riding the shockwave of Brat’s success and the wider “moment” it created.
Despite how big the album became, Charli has said she didn’t expect that outcome at all. Speaking to Gwyneth Paltrow on the Goop podcast, she admitted she worried it might completely backfire.
She said: “I actually made this record being like, ‘OK, I’m just going to do this one for me. Maybe I’m going to get dropped by my label and that’s fine’. That was kind of the headspace that I was in.”