Mackenzie Shirilla won’t be eligible for parole until 2037, but she has already discussed what she might do professionally if she is ever released.
Shirilla is serving a life sentence after being convicted of driving her car into a wall at around 100mph, a crash that killed her boyfriend Dominic Russo and their friend Davion Flanagan.
In 2023, she was found guilty on 12 felony counts, including murder and aggravated vehicular homicide. Public interest in the case has surged again following the release of Netflix’s documentary The Crash.
Now 21, Shirilla is incarcerated at an Ohio women’s prison in Marysville. A recorded prison phone call between her and her mother, Natalie, has since emerged, in which she appears to speak about future plans.
In the call, obtained by TMZ, Natalie is heard praising her daughter as a “pillar of strength” and suggesting she could “help so many people” if she ever returns home.
“All the things you have been experiencing. It’s so much. So many highs and lows, ups and downs,” she can be heard saying in the call.
Shirilla, who is serving two concurrent sentences of 15 years to life, responds: “Yes, like, man. Like, I just wanna come home and just like … I don’t even know.”
She then outlines a possible path for herself after prison, telling her mother: “I’ma be a life coach and stuff. I’m just going to be everything. I’m [gonna] do everything,” as per the outlet.
TMZ did not specify when the call was recorded.
The TMZ audio is not the first time a conversation between the pair has been made public. PEOPLE previously obtained a separate call in which Natalie and Mackenzie were heard speaking in what was described as a private “secret language.”
That “gibberish” reportedly dates back to Shirilla’s initial interview with a detective while she was in hospital after the crash—footage that was not included in Netflix’s documentary.
The communications later drew attention after being featured in A&E’s true crime series Killer Cases.
Investigators ultimately said they were able to decipher the coded talk, and those conversations were introduced as evidence at Shirilla’s 2023 trial. One exchange allegedly captured Shirilla asking her mother: “Can we tell the police I had a seizure?”
In another jail call obtained by PEOPLE, Shirilla reportedly said she wanted Kim Kardashian to represent her. A source close to Kardashian later told TMZ the case “does not fall within her focus.”